Comments on: How Can Any Christian African American Vote for Obama? Throwing the Race Card on an All Black Table

By: Pray for Barak Obama (Part 2) « who am i?

Pray for Barak Obama (Part 2) « who am i? — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:07:54 +0000

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By: evergreen211

evergreen211 — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:44:13 +0000

I believe we here in America have see that Americans are willing to put a Black Man in the Presidency. Look at the numbers of people black,white,latino,asian, etc who are in his following.

With that said. Is Obama the right Black for for this great Opportunity.

Obama calls himself Christian but does not follow many of the Christian Values that the Church follows. It makes me think he is using Christians to get him to the White House. I only wish he actually was what he claims to be a Christian with Christian Values. That would be a Black man for President that Many Many would Rally behind. But sadly he is not that Man.

NOW IM SPEAKING TO FELLOW CHRISTIANS.

In the Bible God provided Leaders untill the PEOPLE decided they wanted and RULER. When God removed his hand and let them have what they wanted they Suffered under many Rulers who did not follow God. When you take God out of your Vote you are asking God to remove his hand from your people and the People of the United States.

I have a question my Christian Black Brothers and Sisters. IF Satan was Black would you elect him president?

I believe I know the answer is No. Then why are you accepting this Beautiful APPLE, who openly does not follow Gods will about Abortion, Partial Birth Abortion, Late Term Abortion and even the Born Alive Act Or Gods created law of 1 man and 1 woman Marriage.

Obama is a Apple being offered to you by Satan. We already know what happened when Adam and Eve Ate the Apple.

Satan Offered Jesus the Whole Kingdom, Jesus did not take the Offer.

I Truly believe that if you take this Apple, from the deceiver we will all pay a heavy price for a Failed temptation.

But if you refuse the Temptation. We will get the Opportunity to put the first Righteous Black Man in the Office Of President.

Please pray before Voting and ask for God to Guide you, Ask him to convict you heart before you Vote if it is not who he wants in the Office of President.

May God Bless you all.

By: jlh868

jlh868 — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:27:42 +0000

Christ says that if you break one commandment you have broken all of them. That can’t be disputed because it is the word of God. We have our own greatest commandments but Jesus said in Matthew 22:37-39 that the greatest commandments are, 37Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.(NIV)

By: jlh868

jlh868 — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:05:30 +0000

I would also like to ask a question to those Christians who are so critical of Obama. Are you speaking as a Christian, or a republican? I am neither dem or repub but, I do believe that regardless of who you vote for it is between you and Jesus Christ, because he is Lord and the final judge.

I wonder what a lot of people would say about King David if he was running for President. Their has been so far 4,000+ soldiers dead and 100,000+ Iraqis because of lies. Almost the entire Bush administration caught up in some type of scandle, crime on the rise, economy in a slump, people losing their homes, poverty rate continuing to rise, Sounds like King Saul to me. This is why I am voting for Obama. Can anybody tell me the name of 1 U.S. president that was perfect? On the other hand any person? We can march with picket signs when it comes to gay people, but did you ever pray for them, show them love and let Christ be seen through you so that the veil maybe removed from their eyes? We spend more time acting religous and less time acting like Christ. That is not saying that we should participate in their sin but, we have many Christians that were once upon a time gay. God can change anyone. Some of the most anointed preachers had a troubled past.

We might disagree on many things as people, but we all should agree that God word is true and the kingdom of God should be our greatest concern.

God bless.

By: jlh868

jlh868 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:22:45 +0000

I beieve that the biggest problem is that a white Christian do not have to live through the everyday struggles of being black in America. I am not making up excuses because I have strong convictions and I love the Lord Jesus Christ with all my heart. I am a Obama supporter and not just because he is black. Republicans use the same old lines every election and it is just rob the poor and give to the rich. It is sin when you oppress the poor. Poor does not have a color it affects every race. For African Americans it always affected most of our community rather by giving up or being turned down because of your color. Their are so many things that still plague the black community education is another. I will not call names but their are a couple of schools in the area in which I live that take public school funds and put it in area private schools. Education I feel that Obama has the best education policy. Because he was a community organizer in Chicago that tells me that understands what poor and middle class people need. I do not agree with abortion though some might say a vote for Obama is a vote for abortion. Thats not true because this has been going on for decades and I believe that they will give this responsibility to the state government. I believe that voting for McCain is a vote for the rich people to continue to oppress the poor. Poverty deaths are about 3 times higher than abortion deaths in the richest country in the world. The republicans love going to war killing innocent people. God judge are hearts not what it might look like. I believe that we can say I am for Christian values but God knows what our hearts is really for. I do not believe that the GOP is the party of Jesus Christ, God gives us all a choice and if you are really saved, sanctified, and filled with the Holy Ghost you will be convicted. The last thing I would like to say is that we are supposed to uphold the law, but we are not saved by the law but by God’s grace because of our faith in Christ. We all think differently and I believe that feeding the poor is very important and biblical. Lets be sensitive to others and not be like the hypocrites or people who pretends to be religious .

God bless Israel, God bless America, and may the body of Christ be with one accord regardless of different opinions.

By: reformedveritas

reformedveritas — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:31:27 +0000

Greetings Eric,

In that it’s a hot topic and everybody’s got the correct opinion on it, I am glad to see you are willing to address it.

Yet with all due respect, I have to ask how a purple polka dotted Christian could vote for either candidate (and tacitly approve the godless Amer. constitution in either case)? Yeah I know, black folks been waitin a long time.

So what? You takes your pick and you picks your poison. Do you want the black face or the pale face, the marxist or the fascist, the Democratic pawn or the Repub clone? Do you want more big government or more big government? Slavery is slavery and that is what this country is being sold into in the good providence of God.

Sorry to come across so cynical, but I’ve been waiting a long time too and R Paul was the closest thing to a real choice and even then under the godless American constitution, that’s not saying much. Even RP said what difference does it make if two homosexuals want to get married? Oh what a happy thing constitutional freedom is.

Yeah, I know, the lesser of two evils . . . Whatever happened to we may not do evil that good may result(Rom.3:8) though?

For that matter, Andree – who is a brother – makes the case that the Big O is just a liberal yuppie white boy with a black face. See Conveniently Black at: http://www.newswithviews.com/Daubenmire/dave121.htm” I concur. The new boss is the same as the old boss. A little more hip, a little more articulate, but still the same old same old.

In short, idolatry is idolatry. Neither the Big O or McKain are saviours, neither does true power and authority flow from the ballot box, yet the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men (Dan.4:17). My fear is that regardless of whoever wins, Amer. Christians of whatever hue won’t be able to see it. Some may call it color bindness, but I think it rather the lack of spiritual discernment and a soul sickness. Politics after all, is only a symptom, not the gospel solution.

Thank you very much,
Bob S

By: davidgough

davidgough — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:18:09 +0000

Thanks for this piece, Eric. I read it recently on your “Man from Issachar” page. In fact, I read it several times, each time finding my perspective broadening a bit more. Having had several days to let it sink in, I am convinced that, despite our attempts to harmoniously live with racial and cultural distinctives within the Christian community, there remains a divide that only love, patience, and intentional understanding will be able to bridge. Having the unique and God-given privilege to be a white pastor of a predominantly black church, I have struggled to understand why some of my people would consider voting for Senator Obama, given his “liberal” social positions and political inexperience. I do not “preach politics” from the pulpit and try not to be invasive as to why someone might choose to support a particular candidate or party. I am guided, however, by convictions grounded upon accurate biblical exegesis. You and I share that same tradition. Most of our people–in both “white” and “black” churches (and I dislike making those distinctions, but do so to make my point)–do not have the advantage (or desire, in most cases) to take apart the Word as you and I have. Therefore, they look to us as their spiritual leaders to help them along the way…in fact, our words often become more authoritiative to them than Scripture (“well, my pastor said…”). I honestly do not know what I will say to my predominantly African-American congregation as this year’s election draws near, and will, therefore, continue to pray for wisdom to speak a word fit for the times. I am aware that some of our people see in Senator Obama the “great hope” to have a black man occupy the the most powerful position in the world. What a triumph that would be for their “race” after centuries of oppression and 150 years after the Emancipation Proclamation was signed. I understand that and applaud the fulfillment of that dream. What I suspect, however, is that their opinions and votes are being formed solely on the basis of race alone. Is Senator Obama truly the one they have looked for? Does anyone really think that he would represent them better than Presidents Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, or Clinton did? It is not because I am not a black man that leads me to reject Senator Obama’s candidacy; but I do fear being branded “racist” if I share my reasons for rejecting him with my people. In fact, to be forthright, I am no less disillusioned with Senator McCain as a candidate on the other side. I would gladly support a black candidate who shared my Christian beliefs and core values. I say all of that to merely suggest that we need to be careful in how we speak of politics from our position as pastors lest we be misundertood and be found guilty of leading our people to a “promised land” that will never be able to fulfill the one we are called to lead them to. Both the Jeremiah Wrights and the Jerry Falwells should have taught us that. Thanks for letting me respond. I love you, Eric. You have my utmost respect.

By: randal125

randal125 — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:40:10 +0000

Obama being black is no where on the radar for me, I could care less about color. He is Pro-choice, Pro-homosexual, and he wants Universal Healthcare so he is a Socialist. A candidate with that stance is not getting my vote, regardless of color. As far as the Christian aspect of this election the Evangelical movement of this country has dropped the ball. We had a candidate in the Primaries and that was former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee. I know I should get over that, however, I have said during the Primaries and now that this election is about the Soul of this Nation. As I see it we, as Evangelicals have lost no matter the outcome of the election.

By: antiochkls

antiochkls — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:53:36 +0000

Grej,

How does one determine the “hierarchy of injustices?” Is that an exegetical move or something else (philosophical, ethical, political, etc.)?

Is it not subjective to declare abortion the #1 injustice issue? I am honestly asking. I am pro-life, but no one (black or white) has ever told me why abortion MUST be the #1 issue for a “Bible-believing” Christian. Obviously, Jesus and the prophets address many injustices. So where does one determine that, objectively, abortion is the top issue at al times and in all places?

Any insight would be appreciated.

By: grej

grej — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:32:37 +0000

Most African Americans are good church going bible-believing folks who have been betrayed
by religious leaders who too often have turned the pulpit into a forum for a political viewpoint
which is incompatible with the scripture that I know.

Here is some scripture they should be teaching:

“What you do to the least of these you do unto me”

“Before I knit you in your mother’s womb I knew
you”.

Of course being pro-life is incompatible with what we know of Mr. Obama’s history
and voting record.
Sen. Obama received the following scores on NARAL Pro-Choice America’s Congressional Record on Choice.

2007: 100 percent
2006: 100 percent
2005: 100 percent

By the way, when he was in the Illinois legislature he voted against requiring a physician to save the life of an infant who had survived a botched abortion. This is a more extreme position than even most pro-abortion groups like NARAL have. He is as far as I know the most pro-abortion, pro homosexual candidate ever to run for president. If this man represents the new Christianity and the new America, God help us all.

One could disagree over issues such as war and the death penalty and still be a good Christian. Abortion and homosexuality are always and forever more wrong and serious evils. They
were wrong two thousand years ago and will be two thousand years from now.

Nothing sanctioned by man can have any validity or lasting if it is not also likewise sanctioned by God.

Mr. Obama is the first African-American to be nominated by a major party, which is hugh. No man, however can come before God or the word of God.

How any bible-believing loving Christian, African-American or otherwise can even consider voting for this man is beyond me.

How one could even compare the taking of an innocent life with any other issue is beyond me.

In the hierarchy of injustices, this is number one.

Question:What does one human life mean to God?(not to man, but to God).

It’s estimated Henry Hyde through his Hyde Amendment may have save a million lives. If he only
saved one is that not worth it?
”
Maggie Styles, staff counsel for Americans United for Life, says that a pro-life president “could help build a culture of life through judicial appointments, the enactment and defense of pro-life laws and policies, executive orders, vetoes and judicial appointments.”

If ten young men grow up impoverished and only one of them survives and escapes it is that not worth it?
Rather than someone who would have suggested aborting them to their mothers?

The day will come for each of us when we will have to stand before God and justify our every action,
including voting for someone like this.

There is a picture at the bottom of the National Right to LIfe web page(nrlc.org). Go there and
scroll down and take a look and think long and hard about how you’re going to vote.

With knowledge comes responsibility. People today are very
hard-hearted and stiff-necked, however.